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Graham
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PLEEEEEASE can we have Prezi on the iPad?

At day 1! Cheers
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  • Hi Graham,

    We are just as excited and curious about the possibilities as you are.
    We love tablets, still it's very early to say anything about this now.

    However...Prezi can be used on touch screen laptops, our founder and lead designer Adam presented with one a few days ago in Berlin and he said it was the best presentation experience of his life.
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    • Hi Zoli - delay on this one and it could cost you more than you imagine.
      Here is the choice for busines presentations:

      iPad + Keynote + HD Videos seamlessly contained in presentation.
      Laptop + Prezi + still very poor video compatibility and resolution

      It has got to be iPad + Prezi + HD Video VERY SOON INDEED or the market will fall.

      I'm cheering for the most innovative presentation software to get right in there alongside the most innovative computer technology.

      PLEASE!!!
    • Hi Zoli - delay on this one and it could cost you more than you imagine.
      Here is the choice for busines presentations:

      iPad + Keynote + HD Videos seamlessly contained in presentation.
      Laptop + Prezi + still very poor video compatibility and resolution

      It has got to be iPad + Prezi + HD Video VERY SOON INDEED or the market will fall.

      I'm cheering for the most innovative presentation software to get right in there alongside the most innovative computer technology.

      PLEASE!!!
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  • Danny Maas
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    I've used Prezi on a SMART Board and it works wonderfully! Still, on an iPad I suspect it would require its own (non-Flash) app. That would be fabulous!
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  • pjdavison
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    Prezi on a SMART Board is brilliant. I use it in my classroom and the students LOVE it. Running a presentation from an iPad or ipod Touch would be terrific.
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  • pjdavison,
    do you use ipod touch or ipad in the class room?

    peter
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    • Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Please iPad Prezi. Both Prezi and iPad have changed the way I think and increased my level of productivity. As a teacher who works with underserved youth on green building and weatherization, prezi has revolutionized the way I present content. Unfortunately, I'll have to abandon it as I become more and more reliant on my iPad and quit traveling with my laptop. Do you have a plan to develop Prezi for an alternative format such as HTML 5?
    • I work at Exeter University in the UK. We have full official support for the iPhone. We love Prezi, and would love to use it with iPad and iPod touch as a universal app and web app, having looked at the Apple HTML5 developers demos it would be easily possible to make Prezi run in HTML5. Very excited at the prospect of Prezi on the iPad!
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  • Aaron Julian Abentheuer
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    I'd love to have Prezi for iPad. - As we equip everyone of our 80 teachers with iPads they would love to use Prezi for teaching. We are currently in project-planning phase so we would love to integrate Prezi. It'd be also great publicity for Prezi as we might be featured on Apples Website as a model-school. Imagine Prezi becoming the Microsoft Office for teaching in the 21st century ;) - you just have to give us an iPad app ;)
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  • Graham
    happy I’m yaaay!
    I'll be collecting mine at 9AM on Saturday......
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  • biodork
    I am a teacher and would love to see a Prezi app for the iPad. I would be willing to pay for it (though free is nice too!).
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  • Ben Ilfeld
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    This one is a no brainer. Prezi on an iPad would bring in tons of new users and be great for those of us who have already discovered the software.

    I too would be willing to pay.
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  • Graham
    silly I’m lustful!
    Having spent the weekend fondling my iPad, i'm more convinced than ever that Prezi on iPad is a marriage made in heaven.....

    G
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  • teamcary
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    Also ... HP Slate coming out soon with Flash support ... so theoretically Prezi should work immediately?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-RZA...
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  • Mark
    Just jumping in here. I'd spend $20 in a heartbeat for a prezi editor/presentation app on my ipad.
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  • Bill Liao
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    I so want this and there is a little hitch iPad doesn't do flash.

    Can Prezi do html5?
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  • Hi all,

    As you know iPad does not support flash, and Prezi is a flash based tool. We agree that prezi is meant to be touched :) check this video introducing Prezi on a touch laptop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDr8g...

    Still Apple's decision raises many technical questions and the IT world is working on finding the best solution to this strange business limitation. I promise to get back to you with more information soon.
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  • Greg
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    "the IT world is working on finding the best solution..."

    Zoli, that's a funny way of saying that Apple is not only being investigated for Anti-Trust violations but also that Adobe is suing them for anti-competitive behavior. Steve Jobs, I would like you to meet Bill Gates. Next up for the power mad CEO: Eric Schmidt.
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    • My reaction to this is three-fold. 1) Just because Steve Job's says it's so, doesn't mean it's so...I'm no Apple hater, but Jobs has made his share of bad calls through his career. He makes profit, but he's not a prophet. 2) HTML 5 is currently most attractive to developers of mobile apps who make things quickly and require compaction, and I think it will be a VERY VERY long time before the larger desktop/laptop friendly applications/application gateways lean away from Flash. The internet moves fast with new content, but it's really slow at getting rid of old content. Flash is going to be around for a very long time even if it does become a "legacy product". Somehow I doubt it will utterly disaper. 3) As far as Adobe goes they'll probably win their lawsuit and also will captilize on Canvas by building an API that outputs either HTML5 or Flash products. It'll probably be some amalgamation of Dreamweaver and Flash Pro.
    • Adobe have a choice, but are in a difficult situation. They are developer of both the premier HTML editing software and flash. In effect they are competing products for a subset of web technology. Flash is great technology for many things, but it has been over used for streaming video and adverts. Adverts and streaming video is best done in HTML5 leaving flash for specialist content. Both Microsoft and Apple are lending their considerable weight behind HTML5 promoting open web standards which does not require plugins. If prezi was implemented in HTML5 then it would be instantly compatible with ALL browsers on ALL platforms. I believe Adobe will create an excellent HTML5 implementation in dreamweaver and developers will eventually shift away from flash. The Apple developer HTML5 demos, show the sort of stunning content that is possible, unfortunately not all browsers fully support the code. However the rate of development in HTML5 implementation across all browsers is very fast.
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  • Jas Doop
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    Absolutely - please come up with a Prezi app for the iPad! Keynote is so old and boring. Prezi would be kick*** on an iPad! The multitouch interface seems like such a natural match for how Prezi works. Please please make an HTML5 app for the iPad!!! It'd be worth whatever $$$ you might ask for it!
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  • Hi, thanks Jas for the feedback :)

    We are aware of the challenges Apple created by not supporting flash. However I cannot promise anything. Will get back to you if I can tell you more.
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  • biodork
    I'm going to add to this discussion again, after having another month of experience with both the iPad and with Prezi.

    The iPad is an amazing platform for work as an educator. I'm well aware of the limitations that Apple is setting for programmers where Flash is concerned. Prezi has revolutionized the way I think about visually presenting to my students and colleagues, and is something I would like to continue using. The popularity of this format is almost viral among educators who see it. (Funny that the NY Times mentioned "Death by Powerpoint," but didn't offer any alternatives)

    I think this is a crucial time for your organization. Two years from now do you want to be known as the company who had a great idea that became a missed opportunity, or do you want to be known as a leader in online presentation solutions? The issue for Prezi should not be Flash. The question that the leaders of your institution should be asking is "how fast can we build a version for iPhone OS using the tools that Apple makes available?" Hire some people who know how to build iPhone apps, and rebuild Prezi from the ground up for the iPad and iPhone. Deal with HTML5 later if it doesn't seem like the right platform for you.

    I honestly believe that someone will come up with a new presentation format that will fit seamlessly with the iPad, and I would love to have it be Prezi. However, if another solution arises, Prezi might have a difficult time holding its ground.

    Zoli and Peter- I'm glad to see that Prezi employees are reading these posts. I hope you've brought the idea to Adam, and that he is the visionary leader that your company needs. I expect he is, as someone who came up with such a great idea.
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  • chad.landman
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    Excellent points, biodork.

    I wholeheartedly agree. Is Prezi going to miss the boat on this? I don't know about you, but a $10 or $20 iPhone/iPad dedicated app not only seems like exact way to go, but it looks like it could make you a TON of money. I've already said this, but the SECOND you guys release any kind of iPad app, I'm going to go get one.
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  • Graham
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    I agree with the points being made. I'm not sure just how visible the Apple platform success is in Europe. As a European in the US (and an American in Europe) I hope to be able to see the many sides of the cultural aspects. Apple is starting to predominate in key influential areas such as NY, San Francisco etc. Their products are pervasive, and whilst I have some (!!!) issues with their 'open, but walled garden' approach, I continue to think that the platform will continue to grow.

    The iPad is a game changer. It's that simple. I'm sure it won't go in exactly the direction we, or anyone else, predicts, but it will change the way we do things. It's a pervasive device potentially.

    I produced my report for a client on a visit to SXSW using Prezi and we are bow looking at how Prezi can be used in the organization for other things, including producing a 'video' for promotion.

    I'll happily pay (and continue to be a vociferous advocate!) for prezi.

    Please do what you can to take these points and apply them.

    Cheers

    Graham
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  • Greg
    Truthfully, the very first application I thought about when I looked at an iPad for possible purchase was Prezi. Learning that it was running the iPhone OS, that does not support Flash quickly dashed my hopes.

    That said, I'm inspired by the optimism in this thread. I whole heartedly agree with biodork. Prezi should break-out of the Apple-imposed Flash prison, if only for the iPhone and iPad. It may be a significant financial investment, but also likely to produce big returns.
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  • Greg, thanks for your activity in the support forum!
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  • pegsyverson
    I agree with what the other educators here have said. I am getting an iPad next month and I have also just set up an educator account with Prezi. I do a lot of creative development and present at national and international conferences.I would love to have Prezi on the iPad. It is the realization of a kind of dream of a really workable spatial environment that is reminiscent of early efforts like Project X for the Mac.

    I run a large Writing Center at UT and we are looking at ways to provide support for students' brainstorming their writing projects with Prezi. We are seeing more iPads around the campus and we know this is going to be a fantastic student platform.

    There are a lot of presentation initiatives out there trying to break users out of the PowerPoint ghetto. Prezi is by far the best, please don't get scooped by the competition. Surely it must be possible to implement this application in HTML5? I'm hopeful.
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  • Jeff D
    I agree with the push to have Prezi brought to the iPad. I'm currently using a PDF-based presentation tool and I would dearly love to have Prezi as an option. Given the alternatives, I think this a hugely disruptive opportunity for Prezi in the touch-screen tablet space.

    Hope to hear good news soon!
    • This is one of those moments in a company's life where destiny is just a fork in the road.

      Make this your top priority and you become the leading apple presentation software (Keynote is Powerpoint in a new skin and not a touch screen killer)

      Pause at the fork, and someone else will own this space.

      Step up Prezi - we are all behind you.
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  • Darren Phillips
    To all the prezi company folk. You are currently tied to the fate of adobe and their ability to innovate. Your product is at the forefront of this next wave of applications. Free yourselves quickly. The iPad is a winner, and you have to run on it to survive. You have won and lost me in the span of a month, and I can assure you I am not the only one. You have at least 35 people on this post that are telling you this, from my experience that makes at's at least 350 who have read the post and just moved on.

    To keep us with you, all you have to say is we are working on it...and give us a date. With that we will then hang on your every word..
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  • Julio
    Allways has been, and will be, life beyond the i-stuff.

    Moreover, considering the contributions of Adobe and Macromedia to the digital context, I think it is worth considering carefully these arguments:

    http://www.adobe.com/choice/openmarke...

    On the other hand I find it hard to understand why almost everyone here ask Prezi to adapt itself to the policy of Apple on Flash, but no one explains that he is talking to Apple asking him to review its decision. Is it because of what explains this video? ... :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnkpgn...

    If I were someone responsible for Prezi, would base my decision to bring the application to other platforms, in any reason, other than the response to a decision as strange as it has taken Apple regarding Flash.
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  • Julio
    Updates :

    NBC and Time Warner Side with Flash in Apple-Adobe War
    http://mashable.com/2010/05/28/nbc-ti...

    Flash Finds Support From Nokia and Time Warner
    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/0...

    Android Froyo Is a Slap in Apple’s Face
    http://mashable.com/2010/05/20/froyo-...
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  • James
    Look, all of the Apple vs Others still does not change the fact that the iPad is a great touch screen device with a vga out. Since your platform is already Flash I can see why you might not develop for the iPad and wait with the hopes that an android tablet with flash support comes along. Still, the iPad is here now and would make a killer device for presentations with Prezi.
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  • Darren Phillips
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    This adobe/apple battle is irrelevant, and should be to the folks at prezi. My point is that platform dependancy is death to any software innovator, those days are now fading. I would suggest that prezi sticks a fairly nice nail into the closing coffin of Microsoft office and over a decade of a single o/s dominating the computing of the world. How could anyone seeing a prezi think that a ppt will do and that prezi type presentations are not the future of presenting? It just seems to me that prezi should simply have their fabulous software run on whatever is relevant. iPad and apple are here, the game has changed and like it or not, the device and company cannot be ignored. It's not the first tablet and won't be the last. Prezi, just get on with it and dominate, or watch someone else take your idea and run with it.
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  • Greg
    Actually Microsoft already has ventured into the Prezi terriroty. Ever play with PPTPlex plugin?

    BTW, I agree that there is a shift coming but the notion that Microsoft in particular or another dominating o/s will just evaporate into open source utopia is just fantasitcal thinking. Money moves the world. Like it or not.

    Also I just wanted to say, though I think iPad is pretty cool, it has its limitations and will not be the only game in town soon enough. Prezi and other software/cloudware mfgs should be able to flex to different platforms but they don't have to feel forced to move from one standard to another. It's not like apple apps is a wide open platform. It's not.

    That said, I'd like to see it on iPad too.
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  • Dave
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    Ditto everything that has already been said pleading with Prezi to have a way to work on the iPad! I have a lot of teachers exicted to use Prezi. They will be discouraged to the point of non-use when I mention that it won't work for students to view it or there are extra steps they will have to take to save/convert it in multiple formats.
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  • Er Manitu
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    I'm University professor in Madrid looking for a good innovative presentation software. Prezi seem amazing but... No iPad support. Bad thing. I'm moving all my presentations to iPad. Well, I selected keynote for iPad.

    I'll take a look to Prezi in some month to see if have support to HTML5.

    I hate flash.
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  • twosmoothdesign
    I find this thread very interesting. I don't own an iPad, but I could definitely see the benefits of having a Prezi app. I do own an iPhone. I have not tested it on an iPad, but I just played around with my Prezi on my iPhone using an alternative web browser. Browsing in the clouds wasn't prefect (and not secure!), but with a few tweaks to the way I create my prezi, it might be usable.
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  • Patrick Mackaaij
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    If #Prezi had a version for the #iPad, how would you use it? Share your stories here! http://bit.ly/aZ5ruk

    Says @prezi on Twitter :)
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  • Julio
    Update :

    Flash and the HTML5 tag :
    http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/fl...

    PLEEEEEASE Apple get back to Flash !!!
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  • Julio
    Some lights at the end of the tunnel:
    "Cloud Browse Flash App Is OK With Apple"
    http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/697...
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  • Mariano Tello
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    Hi! I'm a teacher at ITESM in México. I just discovered prezi and was in shock because of this new way of doing presentations. But.... I also discovered it doesnt work with the iPad. I'm not using my laptop anymore in class because i can use my iPad with keynote. I hope at least you could create a presentation app for the iPad, cause i'll hate to stop using it....

    So meanwhile... I'll stick to keynote.
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  • Oliver Drobnik
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    I'm unfollowing this idea now. I am annoyed by Prezi ignoring this for 4 months already. I'm an iOS developer and in my humble opinion it would be easy to port the prezi system to Cocoa.
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  • Albert Llado
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    Sorry but: "The company implemented this idea" means...? That a Prezi app has already been submitted to Apple? Or that you are working on it...?
    Any update about when can we expect to get it would be welcome!!
    Thanks! :)
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  • Garym
    A non Flash version of Prezi would be a game changer for Prezi. HTML 5 would mean it would run on just about anything.

    When we see "The company implemented this idea" does this mean it's being implemented by the Prezi team and is there a timeline or are the Prezi folks still deliberating and waiting.
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  • Will Hoke
    sad I’m mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!
    I work as a consultant for a major SEC university and If the iPad could do prezi, the director would have every team member have one with the prezi software on it. It wouldn't really hurt to move away from flash anyway, so why not move away from flash and towards the iPad at the same time? The lack of effort to port software over (mind you software that is often praised for its universal functioning) to an ideal tablet solution is very disappointing.

    Prezi is great software, but if i owned an ipad right now, id be using keynote. Less innovative software that's available beats innovative software that isn't every time.
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  • Douglas Mills
    I'm an instructional technologist supporting Chemistry instructors... Prezi on iPad would have great potential.
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  • owens.henry
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    I have been following this for a while, and I have to second the views of those posters expressing their unhappiness that this issue seems to be getting ignored by Prezi.

    As someone who travels extensively to make presentations, the ability to use Prezi (offline) on my iPad would be invaluable; indeed, the fact that it does not work will prevent me from renewing my Prezi subscription if the issue remains at that stage.
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  • erick.sauve.qc
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    I didn't create or use any prezi since I bought an ipad. I will love have prezi on my ipad.
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  • john nordon
    indifferent I’m bemused
    amazing reading, we have just bought two iPads for the office and every one loves Prezi and we are just starting to use both but the conflict between the two systems cause inertia and stops people doing stuff.

    I am amazed that there has been no response from Prezi on this thread to lets us know what is happening and to keep the faith. As a business we have limited time and will not invest in platforms that are limited....
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  • Michael Grant
    Prezi: what's the story with iPAD support. I currently convert Keynote slides to PDF for viewing on the iPAD. Before I move to Prezi I would need to know if you plan to support it and when. So, when?
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  • colinguinn
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    Haven't created a single Prezi since getting my iPad on launch day. It's simply too easy to give presentations using the touch interface right in front of a client (and no, some clunky not-made-for-touch-interface laptop with a touch screen won't cut it). Prezi and the iPad are literally the PERFECT combination! How hard can it be to either convert to Cocoa for a native app or HTML5??
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  • Dan OBrien
    sad I’m not as thrilled with Prezi as before I got my iPad
    If this isn't job 1 at Prezi then you guys have your heads in the sand. It is too perfect a combination, so the silence and delay is curious.
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  • ahartman
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    I'm using my iPad doing VC presentations. Currently I use GoodReader to show a PDF slideshow of a PPT presentation. I'd have much more impact if I could do a native iPad Prezi.

    The iPad is fast becoming the standard for doing presentations. You all need to get onboard.
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  • WNI
    I use Prezi almost for all my presentations. Now i own a Ipad i just need the app on my new portable device !
    Please develop it asap cause i am even willing to pay a premium to get it !
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  • Julio
    It strikes me that no one who asked Prezi working on ipad, explain here that also have asked Apple to admit flash on ipad as it does the rest of the manufacturers of such devices.

    For aesthetics reasons (symmetry) I would appreciate comments like: "I've also asked Apple to support flash on ipad again."

    Could be that only have to do the dirty work the small Companies? :) That sounds like a monopoly ...

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  • daniel.layne
    Julio:

    Apple supporting Flash: not going to happen.
    Prezi supporting iPad: could happen.

    Simples.
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  • Julio
    Support, or not support, flash on Ipad is up to Apple.

    Make hear their needs, is work for consumers.

    Many of those calling here for changes in Prezi's code, may have not paid a dime to Prezi, and certainly they have paid their money for their ipad.

    In my opinion it makes no sense.
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  • Garym
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    Julio - In particular - as a paying Prezi user and I believe there are many of us who pay for Prezi, I essentially would like Prezi available on Pad.

    Apple has no business justification to take any interest in flash - that bit is clear, however Prezi have an opportunity to create a big strong market for themselves here. I suppose nobody knows whether it fits the business model for Prezi management and their VC backers we'll need to wait and see.

    At the top of this thread there is a statement that states "The company implemented this idea". However there is no explanation of what this actually means in real English.

    What would be helpful is a clear non-ambigious statement from the Prezi team as to whether they are working on (as opposed to idly looking at) a non flash version. Thousands of business and apps have already moved from flash to more open technologies so it's not a big deal technically.

    My past experience of the Prezi team and response to demand and support so far has been the equivalent of turning a tanker around - they are slow to react and very slow to change - When fundamental bug fixes (like the copy paste issue) takes 6 months it kinda shows Prezi is not a nimble responsive company by any means.

    Don't get me wrong Prezi is a fabulous product it's the Prezi management that just seems to be slow to respond to anything.

    I have it on reasonable authority that an open source zooming canvas tool is being developed by a young German team. One which will replicate the Prezi zooming function and even import the XML.

    Let's see what happens! I'm happy to pay whoever provides a solution
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  • Julio
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    Garym:

    you said . "Apple has no business justification to take any interest in flash"

    ... you mean that consumer needs is not business relevant ?
    ... you mean that if you can choose you don ́t choose ipad with flash, so with Prezi ?
    • ... the consumer need here is for Prezi to work on an iPad - if you want to make a case for Flash working on iPad this may not be the right forum.

      ...I don't believe anyone buys an iPad for Flash - I bought Prezi to make presentations.

      I, like millions of others bought an iPad to make presentations - regrettably I make do with other graphics technologies - Prezi is locked into a proprietary development technology platform (Flash) so that kinda removes that choice for me. Most of us in this forum just want to use Prezi on an iPad - no-one cares about Flash - in fact over reliance on Flash is highlighting the fact that many companies made a bad technology partner decision. There are nimble developers who adapted fast after the iPad release, there are other developers that are not so quick and nimble - Prezi never became part of the first group.
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  • Tim Conway
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    Agree with you, Gary...100%
    There are technical and commercial reasons why Apple has stayed away from Adobe and Flash. These are not the subject of this forum.
    More important in terms of Prezi and its developers is to deliver against the clear consumer demand of iPad users. Or risk losing these users to a third party, competitive product.
    It is a pity no-one from Prezi has responded for sometime.
    Makes me think they are struggling to support and develop their product.
    In which case, we need to start looking at the alternatives. To a certain extent, OmniGraffle is a commercial product that fulfils some of Prezi's functions, but not perfectly.
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  • Andrew Franks
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    Julio, I completely disagree that Apple has a monopoly. It's not as if there weren't smart phones before the iphone, and it's not as if there weren't tablets before the iPad. Its just that once those products (and more importantly iOS) was developed and released, consumers responded with their wallets.

    That customer base has proven to be incredibly loyal and willing to forgive shoddy service, one major design flaw and missing functionality available on other devices. In fact, their customer base is so loyal that they love the product (97% were either very satisfied or satisfied with the 3gs), while they HATE their provider, almost 50%. (http://www.computerworld.com/s/articl...)

    One of the main reason is that there truly is "An App For That", and the quality of the experience is much better than say on a Droid (in their perceptions).

    I had much the same reaction that I did with the iPhone when I first saw Prezi. In fact, 24 hours before a HUGE presentation, I scrapped all the Powerpoint stuff we had, and bought Prezi and worked through the night on building my presentation, which was a hit. I took that enormous risk because I thought there was such promise, and Prezi has consistently delivered since then.

    Since then, much like my experience with the iPhone, I told everyone who asked about Prezi how good it was, and that we were using it exclusively. Sure, Prezi has flaws, like you can't put a custom background/fonts in yourself, and it's a little buggy, but they seem to be pretty responsive, and no one out there is even close in the Market.

    And for now, while it won't work on IOS, Prezi is relatively safe from competition, as your innovation in the market has been strong. Much in the same way that iPhones and iPads are dominating their respective markets. But if something comes along that's much better (HTC Hero, Droids for example), then people will switch.

    But without strong competition, more and more and more people are moving towards ipads rather than laptops (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/0..., and either Flash will be replaced, or their consumers will become independent of Flash and Flash-based products. The rest of the marketplace will be forced to either accept a smaller target of customers, or develop a more universal platform. However once a customer has switched away from something, they will likely never return to a former product.

    I know I'll never go back to Powerpoint.

    Also, claiming that Apple is mean and we should take our complaints there is a valid point. You have every right as a company to say that. Apple and Microsoft both frequently take the attitude that is very anti-consumer, and Prezi can follow along in their footsteps if you like, however, I would remind you that most of your customers who use IOS use their iPhones and iPads a WHOLE lot more than they build presentations, and probably have more loyalty to devices they use throughout the day.

    If something comes along that's as easy and innovative to use as Prezi and works on the iPad, many will switch and a new dominant force will emerge in the market place.

    You have no responsibility to nor are not being forced to develop an iOS app. I realize that this goes against your fundamental core programming in Flash. All I'm saying is that if a competitor shows up, it could be worse for your company. Someone will innovate, and for your company's sake, I hope it's Prezi.

    After 15 years of using powerpoint, I dropped it permanently in about 5 minutes of playing with Prezi, flaws and all. If something else came to the market I might drop Prezi as well. I love it now, the way I love my iPhone, but I did look at the droids and Hero, and while I didn't switch then, something may come along one day that's better. All I can say is, my company is now planning a large purchase of iPads to take on the road to presentations, and the Prezi issue is looming large.

    For now it's great, but then again, Powerpoint was great once too.
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  • Julio
    IMO this article places this issue in the right spot :

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-200...

    There you can read :

    "HTML vs. Flash has the potential to become a religious war. As long as there have been programming languages, there have been arguments about which tool is the best for getting the job done,"

    Meanwhile I think it is good to remember that there is life beyond ithings :

    http://renaun.com/blog/2010/09/adobe-...



    http://www.google.es/search?q=tablets...



    How is she spinning ? clockwise or counterclockwise ? ... if you pay attention, you see the two ways :)
    • I agree with the article, but I don't think the argument of flash vs html5 is relevant. Your customers may not know or may not care that prezi is flash based. They just want to use their cool looking presentation software on their favorite device. Whether or not it's feasible, or whether Prezi wants to spend a bunch of time essentially figuring out how to make it feasible is irrelevant as well. As I said in a previous post, your customers want it on an iPad. They have spoken. It's not for you to decide whether they're right or not. If everyone screamed they wanted a leopard-print background, you'd deliver it. What I'm saying is that with this much demand, someone is going to build presentation software that works on an iPad. If it's you, fantastic, your market has already said they would pay a premium. If not? By inaction, you have created a needless competitor. The choice is up to you guys. Arguing about whether it's a religious debate doesn't matter in the least to your customers.

      In that Cnet article you posted there's a line about how customers don't know or care whether their movies are flash or not they just need to push play. Your customers are the same. They jus want it to work on an iPad.
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  • garysage
    silly I’m wondering what's happening in the Prezi Ipad meetings.
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    Dear Prezi Fans - let's get back on topic.

    Let's not forget this thread is "PLEEEEEASE can we have Prezi on the iPad?"
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  • Jeff D
    indifferent I’m still frustrated.
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    I agree with Gary. This conversation has gone wildly off course, so much so, that I'm seriously thinking about unsubscribing from it. We need to ask a different question: when is Prezi going to deliver an app for the iPad? This is the conversation we need to begin right away. I hope Zoli or someone else from the company will respond specifically to that question as soon as possible. Thank you.
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  • Julio
    Yes, Andrew those issues, finally, are about law of offer and demand . See here ipad users claiming for flash support. Let us see if Apple is right not hearing them :

    ...

    " I absolutely love my iPad, but this gap is really frustrating. I am a huge tennis fan and watch A LOT of matches on live stream. NONE of them work on the iPad. Even some "live score" sites use flash. It is frustrating to have one thing missing from the iPad..

    ...

    I am very disturbed by Apple's censorship of Flash based web content on the iPad. Most major news amd education sites use Flash for maps and other interactive diagrams. Blocking Flash content on the iPad makes it close to useless for many users. - It is not the place of hardware makers to impose censorious standards on content providers and I look to Apple to reverse its present position on Flash content on mobile devices. -

    ...

    The lack of Flash is a real pain in the short term. Many sites like the BBC, sports results, various news services, etc. use Flash, and we can't get that content on Apple's mobile devices. - I support Apple's stance on this, but it still is a pain in the short term. - Only good news is that I see the BBC are talking about moving their news services away from Flash in the future. Can't come soon enough!

    ...

    I understand why steve jobs is opposed to flash and I don't really mind that the iPhones don't support it. However The iPad is WAY too similar to a computer to not have flash. What is next, not allowing flash on iMacs? I'm fine with not allowing safari to support flash because of all the reasons stated in steve jobs article about why he does not like flash. However, for those of us who still want to torture ourselves with flash, we should be allowed to download a browser that will support flash. Apple is treating customers like babies, and it is insulting.

    ...

    I don't think Apple view iPad users as babies. More like cash cows. Flash would allow content and apps to bypass the iTunes Store and the App Store. Flash on the iPad would impact Apple's revenue stream. No need to look any further. There's no "moral" or "technical" decision. It's business.

    ...

    I agree with Jobs's explanation: Flash *****. Security issues, error messages, resource hog, etc.(although he's also obviously feared of Flash's capabilites that would make tons of commercial apps, especially most 2d games, a waste of money.) - But he needs to realize that there are many many people who want Flash on Apple mobile devices regardless of its drawbacks. What I think the best solution would be is adding, along with Flash, an option to enable/disable Flash contents on the web. If it's not technically impossible, it would be win-win for everyone.

    ...

    I don't think anyone here is saying (that flash) it's a 'killer app'. It is however, extremely inconvenient not having the option as many news services, education sites, sports results, BBC, etc. use Flash and not being able to view them is a real pain. - The transitional period from Flash to HTML5 is going to be pretty tedious for some people. - At the end of the proverbial day, however, this is a pointless discussion. It's not as if Mr Jobs is going to change his mind! ... Again, like many of your other posts, you seem to think that the world should change to fit Apple's philosophy, rather than 1 device fitting in with the rest of the world."

    ...

    etc, etc, see this 117 messages trend here : http://discussions.apple.com/thread.j...
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  • Dan OBrien
    sad I’m kind of sick of this discussion.
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    Does Julio work for Prezi? Prezi suggesting that Apple should support flash is the tail wagging the dog. I'm going to use my iPad, that is not at question, but I will not be using Prezi unless they find a way to work on the iPad as it exists.
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  • Julio
    "Does Julio work for Prezi?"

    That would be too simplistic. I think we should continue to reasoning rather than labeling.
    • I don't understand your point. If you are an official representative of Prezi, if that's your label, then we assume you are speaking on behalf of Prezi. Everyone here is presumably a customer of Prezi and even has financially supported the company. If you are just a supporter of Prezi, or hate Apple or whatever than that's fine, but if you work for the company, the the question is if you are speaking FOR the company and the reluctance you display is an official company position, or if you are just an obviously protective employee, but speaking for yourself.
    • Andrew, of course I am not a Prezi's representative, and I am not working for, or having financial connections with Prezi.
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  • Andrew Franks
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    People have been begging apple for flash forever, but ultimately, that doesn't matter what apple decides to do. They have a successful product with a large chunk of the market share. Other companies have found ways to develop exclusive applications for iOS and have found success there. Some have not and continue to be successful in a Flash-only environment.

    What matters now is whether Prezi is working to create an IOS app or not. If they are, and it comes quickly enough to discourage competiton great. If it doesn't and a competitor steps up, you could lose market share.

    If you guys are planning an app, please let us know. If not, then your iPad customers have a decision to make. Is it worth using Prezi, or is there a competitor.

    I can only assume Prezi is discussing it internally based on the volume of comments here. I realize it requires a lot of programming muscle and resources and will be difficult, but shortly I assume you will make a decision as a company as to whether you will be pursuing development, or sticking exclusively with Flash.

    So my question is blunt. Will Prezi develop an iOS application, yes or no.
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  • Mark Geljon
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    Since we are all visual thinkers and passionate about Prezi, an attempt to lighten the discussion (and still illustrate we definitely would LOVE Prezi for iPad!! ;o)
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  • mbucherl
    sad I’m frustrated
    I really like Prezi's potential, though it threw a 2035 error at me this morning and I had to relink a bunch of images. Our sales reps want the iPad. Does that mean that I go for Keynote instead? Oh well...
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  • Patrick Mackaaij
    indifferent I’m indifferent
    Prezi is not on iPad yet, is it? This topic starts with "The company implemented this idea".

    Anyway... maybe Scobleizers post "SlideRocket goes HTML5" inspires? SlideRocket can present (not compose) on iPad. The video mentions it cannot be used via a beamer due to Safari on iPad limitations.

    http://scobleizer.com/2010/11/16/firs...
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  • Ferdinand
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    Hi now the discussion starts 10 month ago. When we will get Prezzi on I pad?
    I like Prezi but I prefer my IPad. So do we need to look elswere?
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  • Bert
    sad I’m sad
    I'm also desperately waiting for prezi on iPad.
    Bert
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  • brendancoughlan5
    happy I’m exicited for prezi
    i reckon with the prezi team working on it already and about 1000 people saying it will be the best thing ever prezi will be going crazy in their office trying to get prezi on ipad. if prezi does competitors would go out of busines and there would be the prezi business empire. im pretty sure prezi will go on ipad and become rich but what im interested to kow is after prezi whats gonna happen because they can't become to rich with just one program.
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  • Robert
    For me an acceptable first solution to the iPad issue would be to make a HTML5 player. Which would enable me to view the Prezis on an iPad but not edit them. That would be a huge leap forward for me.
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  • Tim Tannhof
    silly I’m looking forward to the release!
    I can only agree! Prezi for the iPad would be wonderful!
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  • mbucherl
    OK, has anyone tried the skyfire iTune Flash conversion app for Prezi? It received a lot of press recently for allowing real time flash to html5 video viewing, but will not do flash games... Is Prezi "really" a game that won't work? That my thinking but I haven't tested it yet. Cheers.
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  • Conon O'bourbon
    happy I’m hoping that this idea comes true for iPhones aswell
    iTunes* and skyfire isnt for flash applications, only videos (and Im assuming that one would want the entire prezi suite for creation). Furthermore, an iPad application isnt necessary, just using HTML 5 will make Prezi available to all modern platforms, including the iPhone and Androids (without the use of a battery draining, security risking flash plug-in - or support)
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  • mbucherl
    silly I’m bemused!
    So, I read the skyfire description and didn't think it would work, because it wouldn't do "games" which are interactive like Prezi. So, an export function into html5 would be one development path...from a non-software-develooper...
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  • Jeff Andrews
    Please bring Prezi to the iPad. I can sell hundreds of licenses for you.
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  • makai
    The iPad is the perfect platform for Prezi in two manners: the technology (especially the software) is far superior compared to other tablets, which are all kind of sluggish in the interface and equipped with much more latencies.
    The other point is that the elegant, minimalistic and creative way Apple and its communities usually appear would fit perfectly to Prezi.

    I'm really surprised that there hasn't been a competitor, yet, with a similiar idea in particular focusing on the apple market.

    I just don't understand you guys. Programming an app for iPad (and at the same time for Macs as well) would be so easy. Everything you need is there.
    Quartz2D has already everthing in there you need for your vector drawing.
    Why are you using those slow flash-crap?

    I wish I had more time... I would have been developing the competitors product already.
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  • Keith Morris
    happy I’m hopeful
    Looks like there hasn't been a reply lately from Prezi on this, and it seems like a pretty popular idea. I'll throw my hat in the ring on this one too. I'd LOVE to see Prezi on the iPad. Where are we with this? Did you guys decide to work on it? Are you still considering it? There aren't many presentation platforms available for iPad at the moment, and Prezi seems absolutely perfect for iPad. Hope you make it happen soon!
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  • pmaniar
    Agree that an iPad app would be a great productivity enhancer for our sales team. We often use prezi and the the wow factor is incredible. Having the ability to present via an iPad app would make life much easier. No need to release full editing capabilities on launch. But if you did, it would make it a killer app. Key is presentation/demo capabilities. That what I primarily use my iPad for. Looking forward to a press app release! Glad the company is considering it.
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  • matt
    happy I’m excited we will get there - one day!
    What is possible with Prezi and the iPad today



    I know this might not be what most of you would like to hear. I'm a big fan of Prezi and have done Prezi presentations in front of huge, international audiences. Prezi has never let me down.
    I would love to see the Prezi team move forward to a HTML5 compatible format or allow a high-res full canvas PDF export which would allow you to use Prezi with your iPads. However, they are apparently not there (yet!).

    So, here is how you can use Prezi with your iPad right now:

    • run Prezi web or desktop on a windows PC and access this remotely using iPad apps like Teamviewer, VNC, splashtop or others

    • run Prezi on a server and access it with apps like WebEx
    • or Citrix
    • export your Prezi to PDF, upload and display in an app like Goodreader

    • extend the screen of your laptop or desktop with MaxiVista for iPad and the MaxiVista app to display the Prezis on your ipad - see picture above


    Of course, the main shortcoming of these solutions is that you will need a host machine to use Prezi. For real Prezi-like presentations, you are pretty much forced to use option 1 above with all drawbacks that come with remote operations.

    So, lets keep the Prezi / Zuilabs team under pressure to at least develop a prezi viewer for the iPad!
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    Prezi viewer now! Ipad portability is the key for my presentations. Prezi is the only reason for my sluggish netbook survival ...
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  • Hello guys, the wait is over. Thanks for all your valuable user stories, suggestions and requests. This was a real community teamwork.

    We are happy to introduce: Prezi for the iPad!

    http://blog.prezi.com/2011/01/10/show...

    Looking forward to continuing sharing thoughts and receiving your feedback here.

    Happy Zooming
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